Sadly it is closed source and Mac only so it does not have the same overall philosophy (despite the note output being very portable). I use Google Keep. That makes sense, but I didn't realize it was set up for code signing. Pen and paper is a commonly used alternative, even amongst the HN crowd, but there's no need to shout down a product that might help people because you take notes differently. Also a subscription doesn't guarantee that something unexpected will happen to Shinyfrog (the company behind it). I'm also yet to find the perfect photos app. and join one of thousands of communities. Paper notepads and daily calendars are very popular on Kickstarter. Unless you have an extensive background in application security, especially on the stack that you are using (Electron, etc), then don't advertise security as a feature. What is a note?, I on the other hand find Bear horrible. 3. according to Google. A very simple and basic version, it even has an API and a cli client!! Brett is working on a complete rewrite of the app (which will be a paid version): But two years from now, the app would inevitably begin suffering and bloating, and eventually implode. Other private, short-lived, growth-oriented companies? That way, we get the digital benefits of searching, organizing, mass storage in tiny space, unlimited and free mass duplication, and so on, while still being able to print multiple copies anywhere on demand in order to produce redundant hard copies with extreme archival durability (provided you do some research on archival paper and printer ink/toner). The ones that do use paper as long-term storage have a separate set of notes just for that, and transcribe from short-term to long-term anyway, at which point the other liabilities of paper come into play. I've yet to find anything better, although I do wish it had better support for "anonymous" notes. In any way, my point is, I personally rather pay a price and own the piece of software than renting an app. Simplenote syncs across virtually everything and supports AppImage, DEB, and RPM. According to the website you can simply output your data to a text file: On the contrary, this is like a web application optimized for tablet converted to a windows app. I keep a small Moleskine notebook and a pen with me to write down notes and ideas. Visual Studio Code. Paper worked well for persistence when that was all we had, but we have much better now. What we need is something that focuses on durability and not growth. I use the Workflow app on iOS, and I have a feeling it would be relatively trivial to write a workflow that loops through all your notes and writes them all to text files in Dropbox or something else like that. I'm a member of the Electron maintainers group and fully realize that this is partly on us for not educating better. ", "The latest release is 0.9 ("Astrakhan"), released 2015-12-30.". Encrypted, open-source, and extensible. Its free. Nice - I was about to rewrite a sticky note thing I have been using (saves to DropBox, too), but I have forked yours and will start from there instead. - self hosted front end with a simple management interface for organising photos into albums, uploading, setting permissions VS Code provides Markdown editing capabilities out-of-the-box, but you can install an extension for even greater functionality, like shortcuts, creating a table of contents, and more. I would like to do something similar but I would like markdown support and the ability to link to other documents/media. That is, notes that I don't really feel like organizing or naming. >> I want to be able to read it fifty years from now ... > I've read Altucher's words on using a waiter's pad and he says the same thing -- it's for ephemera. However, it's not very easy to lookup info by topic and it's time consuming to write out detailed explanations in long-hand. [0]: I'm not even directly commenting on the product itself. I'm really satisfied with the end to end encryption and the general security and privacy model of Standard Notes. As I know you understood I was just trying to give you the sense of what it is the user/customer experience of your product because I like it and I feel there is much room for improvement, in the software and in the business model. It needs to have: I really like Google Photos for it's excellent search capabilities. (this made me smile; I worked at NRAO for ten years.). This is especially true for a notes app that is supposed to last you over many many years and possibly hold thousands of notes at some point. Think about it like this: if we just bundled all of the functionality that we currently have in extensions into the core app, we would be no different from Evernote. I haven't had much luck with the bullet journal system or similar because it's just hard to keep those indices up to date. You can easily create text-notes, reminders, to-do list, and more. Open your note and use the File-> Print menu option or Ctrl P. iOS. Standard Notes is free to use on every platform, and comes standard with cross-platform sync and end-to-end privacy. Even if I want to preserve the history of the evolution, I'll want to be able to insert the new things where they make sense -- a new consequence here, a parenthetical that amends the previous thought there. Sounds disastrous enough to warrant active policing. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). It's a good defense against CDNs turning malicious. As Bruce Schneier famously quipped, anyone can invent a security system that he himself cannot break. I don't know about you, but keeping any paperwork for over ~5 years is a chore: it requires keeping several filing cabinets to even have a chance at keeping track of things. Did you notice any particularly effective nonlinear note taking style being used by these astronomers? Interesting read. I know it's a radical thing to say but technology isn't always the solution to our problems. If you are on Windows, I highly recommend ResophNotes. Remote code should never run with full privileges - consider using a `webview` instead, which can be sandboxed. In the HN crowd, I wonder how many notes still start off on paper, but are then transcribed into digital. If you like the idea of cyber note taking, but are worried about hackers snooping on your thoughts, Standard Notes has you covered. Terminal Velocity is cross platform and open source and awesome. I know HN is for the tech crowd, but can I suggest something so simple it sounds stupid? Its open source. It's also useful when traveling and being given a guest Linux work station to use that it doesn't require admin privileges to get working: just git clone the vimwiki repo into ~/.vim and clone the notes repo. I'd be fine with using different apps if they all used the qvnotebook format, but as far as I know, nothing but Quiver uses that, and I don't want to have an export/import step. The core mission of SN has always been anti-bloat. Thus no need for IV, and makes implementations across platforms simpler. The file format for Standard Notes is pretty straightforward, wouldn't imagine being too difficult to write an importer: The Evernote converter lives in this repo: This is incredible. The other major benefit of having them digital is having them searchable. For this purpose, pen and paper should be good enough in my point of view. Or it gets wet, or when I forget it, and I sure as Schmidt won't be able to read them in 50 years, because the only thing I have that is that old is my physical body. And best, ... that have been standard in other note-taking apps for years. That looks pretty great. I think forcing structured data input is the wrong approach and it is better to use NLP or other methods of inference. - backend storage should be any cloud hosting system such as on AWS S3, but the data shouldn't be accessible to any one publicly, except via the application, and ideally encrypted at rest. I also really appreciate the simplicity and minimalism of the program even though it is becoming more and more clear during the regular use that is not a design choice made for usability but more to keep the software easy to maintain for the devs. But that's not from laziness. Now that I have 923 notes in HTML files on my hard drive, I can do whatever I want with them. 2018 is the beginning of year two :). Everything looks great, but now that you're getting serious traffic you may want to pre-emptively sign up for business support (if you haven't already), I noticed they give you a free month for the "self-starter" startup pack: . The only bulk operations are Delete and Pin-to-top. Learn more. Notes I can't get at might as well not exist. Pros: Use across desktop and mobile devices, easy to … Quiver is another awesome note taking app, native and superfast on macOS: And 10.8 MB on OS X. > What I write is important to me. Something along these lines is what I'm imagining. Logged revisions also effectively ends up as a text collapsing function - just keep the first line or so of a block of text and delete the remainder, and then when you want to open up that block of text again, just scroll back in the history. Simplenote syncs across virtually everything and supports AppImage, DEB, and RPM. with a modern feature set (embedded media, links, etc. There is definitely a need for something like Standard Notes. Encryption and media are easily changed if that becomes necessary and technology changes. In this light I can't help but seeing also the way the software description is written on their website as dodgy: don't try to buy me with promises of "eternal life" and strong coding ethic when in the actual experience it is so easy to lose all the information on a note. Its free. I use deft after trying a few other alternatives. Good luck. My current plan is to import them into OneNote because they have good app coverage across platforms and they just released what looks like a pretty solid API that lets you import and export notes. I'll bet that .txt files (which is what I currently use to store notes) will outlast .doc. I understand (and to some extent also appreciate) the bold effort to stand out (and the software probably deserve it as well) but please try to stay more conscious of the customers point of view, in the process. They're just markdown utf-8 textfiles in a folder hierarchy, and I figure vim and vimscript extensions are pretty darn future proof. You can access the app without sign up here: Very nice. Simplenote is one of the best note-taking app which not only offers a no-nonsense interface but also brings most of the basic features that you might require from a note-taking app. After this episode my sense of reliability for Standard Notes dropped quite considerably. Oh neat! Being open source and extensible is a bonus! But there's an extension system built for Standard Notes so 3rd party can add. [1] Maybe some people will like this, but the motivations and decisions just seem ill thought out so far, particularly when it's "VC is going to kill Evernote, so you should rely upon a hostname I personally administer instead and you get exactly what I give you" as the main call to action when I go to the page. James Altucher uses a waiter's pad. The preferred way to deploy it via GCE or Scaleway will use the latest dockerized version. But from having asked around, the note taking process spans the entire spectrum from old school big research notebooks, collated three ring binders, instances of mediawiki, evernote, to just a bunch of .txt files scattered throughout their filesystem. That's an excellent question! And there are reasons for that. Traditional Distorbution packages. Google Keep for Google power users. The only thing it is lacking is something like Evernote clipper. Interesting! Even just using a subset of orgs features, it can still be significantly more powerful than just plain old markdown. Distribution independent, and it's super easy to get auto updating in Electron. Regarding some of the extensions and themes: While using the folders extension the UI is broken so it is impossible to edit the tag because the interaction menu is not clickable. I used to like Keep as well, but I needed something that would work offline, even trello wasn't an option. The reason we torture ourselves to do it this way is because it's better for the long run. A hundred years from now. Zim[0] (open source) has a lot of these features. I'll have to poke at it. It also sounds like this person was quite negligent in handling their own data - Standard Notes certainly asks more of you as far as problem solving because it’s under development by one really thoughtful person - but it beats using any non encrypted or “encrypted” service by mainstream options. The next version I'm working on will make the experience a lot more fluid, comfortable, and even fun. Your quote at the top regarding long-term storage had me thinking in that direction (the long-term stuff is still "notes" to me). Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Keep up the good work guys. - simple security so you can share only with the people you want to share with, especially simple for older relatives With a lot of notes and lists in Google Keep, I always wonder when Google will kill it like Reader. Apple Notes provides several options while typing a note. I have settled on Org and or Markdown, to Dropbox if required sync. I have used plenty of them and currently settled for Simplenote for quick notes and Joplin for collection of notes in chapters. In the end the software experience feels more broken than simple. On top of that, I find their organization features not very good. No two items are ever encrypted with same key. Thanks! I use flat files in markdown since 2010 with Sublime Text with extensions: MarkdownEditing, Table Editor, All power of Sublime Text, Super fast full text search, Full index of all header sections in all files trough Cmd+Shift+R, Full index of all file names trough Cmd+P, Language | files | blank | comment | code. Even though I think that there is no real need of nested tags (especially when the system can't be clearly mirrored on the android app) the actual extension should work correctly. Notes may contribute to a long-term document that should absolutely be digitized, but storing the notes themselves defeats their purpose in my view. Originally published on my blog. If you check the actual changes, it does seem like it's under active development: It is under active development they just haven't released a new version. After work on the paid product was released, the "marketing" copy was actually dumbed down, and not made more hyperbolic. You know, you would think for something as basic as writing down what you're doing there would be an optimized way passed down like some sort of tribal knowledge. What's the best format to distribute Linux apps? Maybe I (or somebody else) can write an importer for Standard Notes to make it easy to switch from Apple Notes? For years I've been using TiddlyWiki[0], and while it has worked fine it is not perfect. Overview:Microsoft’s free cross-platform note-taking app gives Evernote a run for its money, though the interface leaves something to be desired. Or, you can pay $20 per year for the Premium version of Simplenote to hide all ads, store up to 30 versions of each of your notes (standard is 10), and other additional features. I get the multiplatform thing, but Electron >_<. Apple Notes? Standard Notes (todo) Notebooks. As it stands, I have to preview my document to see the images. This doesn't mean my goal was to deceive you—my mission and passion is still building a notes app that lasts. I use Dynalist for my notes. The best note-taking apps sync across iPhone, Mac, Windows, Android, and the web. You are completely locking yourself into their system and if you stop paying the monthly fee, you even loose the ability to sync your things to your phone or Mac. It is annoying. It's remarkable how bad the Apple Notes apps are. AlternativeTo is a free service that helps you find better alternatives to the products you love and hate. I find my research notebook useful as a dated "what am I doing right now", free-form input useful for equations and diagrams, and short term to-do lists (which are more useful for outlining the steps needed to actually get something done). I don't think it does yet. Agreed, I think there is room for improvements and the design leaves me cold. And all of that language was meant not to convince you to purchase, but to get you into our world of what we care about and what we're trying to do. Love Quiver but I really need an iOS client! After being a heavy SimpleNote user I finally migrated to Onenote. Standard Note (Image credit: ... For something more feature-light and text-oriented than a lot of the best note taking apps, try out SimpleNote, a cross-platform offering from Automattic. The Evernote clipper really shines in how smooth everything works. I don't agree with the author much. I think the KISS principle applies here. People who like digital notes might benefit from this system. Open your note, click on the Info in the panel, and select “Send.” You will see “Print” as an option. Joplin is a free, open source note taking and to-do application, which can handle a large number of notes organised into notebooks. Part of the appeal of Simplenote is markdown support but the other cool thing is WordPress support. Reddit is a popular online community that ... Simpleen. So I thank you once again for your thoughts. Anyway, I look forward to this project, and it could be successful in the end, similar way the Visual Studio Code is. Microsoft OneNote for a free note-taking app. On a technical level, this seems to be a desktop web app which is overkill for a simple text editor. For some context,in addition to taking notes with the method I describe in this post,I have tried taking noteswith pen and paper,with Google Docs,with Evernote,andwith Simplenote. Related, here's a post by the author [1] about Evernote which sheds light on why he went about making this. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 26669 on r2-app-0c86560e31d3c7463 at 2021-01-12 03:30:55.284812+00:00 running 0131643 country code: US. They let you jot down quick notes, search, export, and sync everything you want to remember. For anything more serious, I would absolutely agree that "longevity, portability, and privacy" are much more important. I think such a non-linear problem can be solved with different note taking methods as "short, medium, and long-term storage". Feature Request: don't load notes on android, just type and send. Reminds me of Simple Note, which I've been using ever since Evernote became slow and bloated (. The view that often times, technology solves one problem and creates two more in its place. And that requires a different sort of thinking and development architecture. All the ones I've tried don't even come close. It works just fine. The monetization is very elegant, no popups, no intrusive real estate to tell you to go pro. With so many apps to consider, we had some pretty strict criteria for what made a great notes app. While using a dark theme the notes background flashes with white when switching between notes. Unlike Laverna, Standard Notes is being actively developed. Same here. I think we're all thoroughly aware of the pen and paper option. Completely freeform tagging requires a lot of discipline to not get out of hand, nested tags make this even more difficult. I'm also looking to escape Flickr, and still have yet to find a good self-hosted solution. That's pretty much what I do, except using UltraEdit as the editor. Most of my org notes would be ok to edit with nothing more complicated than the labels+tags+checkboxes+tables features. If inlining images would be as easy as in Bear, I would be very very happy. I use a cross-platform clone called nvPy on my primary machine, it's a pretty adequate substitute. I love the spirit of this. Great read. All data is stored on several USB keys that are backed up in several places. It's actually much harder to do everything this way. Visual Studio Code isn’t a dedicated Markdown editor, but has the functionality to be used as one all the same. But still my suggestion is to try and be more clear with their customers because the software it IS good and there is no need of marketing tricks to get people to subscribe in my opinion. I use google keep as a todo/planning app and VSCode with Markdown extension as a note taking app. I do that in vim with a Markdown file and the GPG extension for vim. I had a similar thoughts, but didn't want to start from scratch (I include Electron in this definition). Of course, if you love using an elegant pen for the esthetics and freedom of it (okay, hard to argue with that), then do anything important on fine, archival, loose paper with a beautiful, pigmented (not dye) ink, and scan and OCR it to once again maximize its usefulness and longevity. The best note-taking apps. I tried Standard Notes because I am concerned with privacy and security matters. Nonetheless there is really good potential in the software and I encourage getting a paid subscription to support its development. I'm the sole developer on this and it's a lot of work, but everything is coming together nicely. 1. When writing I don't want to think about metadata, I just want to write, not think about titles, tags, etc. This is a lifesaver if you have to quickly search for a scanned receipt or a screenshot. Seriously, .deb or .rpm is okay, but what users will really want is a proper apt/rpm repository, which is for sure more effort. So if the website goes down, I've still lost my data unless I back it up in advance. Not only the mark up tags didn't completely get removed but the note information somehow disappeared without any chance to get it back (I still had to activate the note history extension). Learn more. Standard Notes seems the very least amazing. Standard Notes is a lot like Simplenote. Simplenote is now available for iOS, Android, Mac, and the web., I'm not saying that the devs are greedy or have bad intentions, I understand their position as in the app business they have to compete with giant companies and this might be really unfair to them. It isn't open source, but it's excellent software very much in the spirit of nvalt. Evernote for the ultimate digital notebook. If someone want to go that way OpenSuse Build Service. Snap uses a central location which i also don't like as much. Rendered by PID 26669 on r2-app-0c86560e31d3c7463 at 2021-01-12 03:30:55.284812+00:00 running 0131643 country code: US. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Standard Notes is a lot like Simplenote. Shorter term, an Ubuntu PPA wouldn't hurt. I'm trying to get started with Standard Notes but running into trouble. Love it so far! But even implementing a broad subset might be hard. Mac only and as others pointed out not updated too regular but I know people who love it. The Electron Desktop App simply loads an index.html which points at remote JavaScript. Been using it for about a year, and like it. And that's a really good thing. Overall I have the perception of a really (passive) aggressive business model in many ways and as far as I have the will to help the devs of Standard Notes as a paying user I couldn't help but feeling a bit manipulated in my decision to get a paid subscription in a quite unfair way a few times during my first hours of using the software. A couple things that could be useful: Is there actually any description of how you're encrypting, how you manage and distribute keys, why you believe this is secure, why you're not using an authenticated mode, etc? Pull request anyone? For example using the advanced editor on the desktop app means that in the android app you will have a note with visible html tags. Grep and find still work. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: A simple and private notes app. But this mission is always a work in progress. In the meantime, feel free to submit a pull request for any of those items and I'll be happy to merge it in. I intended my comment to start a dialogue on problems that don't necessarily need technical solutions. And attempting to justify it by using a single dictionary definition, isn't logic, it's wordplay. I converted some text to bold and then to get it back to plain text quickly I pressed ctrl + z several times. I use penn and paper all the time and prefer it to note taking apps. Everything requires careful thought and runs in sandboxed environments. Of these methods, I stuck with pen and paper the longest.I still like taking handwritten notes, but for most use casesI value the ability to search through and format my noteson my computer over the extra expressiveness of handwritten notes. These semi-fully formed digital notes can then be used as the building blocks for the "long-term storage" of more durable works like journal articles or papers. "A brief record of facts, topics, or thoughts, written down as an aid to memory." Interesting is one word for that, given the main thesis that venture capital is universally to blame for the failure of centralized things we rely upon (with zero evidence to support this assertion), and that building another centralized service with less functionality is somehow the better answer. My principle, maybe my only, problem with paper is appending to notes I've already closed by opening new notes after them. That said just taking notes in a consistent place and in a consistent format gets you 80% of the way there. Personally I think flatpak is the best of breed with appimage a close second. I like Smugmug as far as layout/features and use it too, just wish I could self host it. In fact, we might even quickly become more bloated than Evernote. It seems like it would take a great deal of vigilance to make digital notes endure for that long. I almost always end up back there :). Whether your note-taking style demands minimal design and slick gesture-based functions, or advanced organization and cataloging of various media, chances are there's a notes app that's right for you. Or sign each release with a private key on a machine that's "very protected from the Internet" and only have the Electron app automatically pull the update if the signature can be verified with the public key. I think some history helps: the paid version of Standard Notes came several months after the core version was released. Add version tags to the git repo, that way I don't have to wonder what's changed between deploys It's neat, but only if you live completely inside the Apple ecosystem. A native mac app would be a huge boost. 2. I've been using it for years on Windows and Linux. 2. One thing you have to sort out is whether and how Simplenote fits into your notes workflow. Good to know :), The auto-updater really isn't ready for prime time, sadly. I'm merely expressing an alternative viewpoint that doesn't get discussed much around here. A better UI color scheme for the android app should be done or at least one extra theme should be available for the free app. Thanks, now that I know people are using the Ruby server I'll start versioning it. Needs transparent encryption though, so you can push your notes to untrustworthy places. I would write the app myself! I found. All that within Dropbox directory, accessible anywhere. So, I'm really behind projects like this focusing on openness and durability. As a developer, I would just love to not have to worry about this limiting extension architecture, and just bundle everything directly in the app. I realize there are methods like the bullet journal's that address this, but they've felt clumsy to me. 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